Serious problems in random battlegrounds

[Guest]

Serious problems in random battlegrounds,that are KILLING RANDOM BGS AND VERY LIKELY SERVER

FIRST SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS BELOW

1.MAKE ALL RANDOM BGS CROSSFACTION WITHOUT RACE CHANGING

2.DISABLE GROUP JOIN IN RANDOM BGS

3.SHUFFLE THE SEEDS-FOR EXAMPLE JOIN FIRST YOU BECOME 10TH,JOIN 10TH YOU BECOME 3RD,JOIN 3RD YOU BECOME 1ST ETC...

4.MAKE OFFLINE PLAYERS STAY 1 MINUTE BEFORE KICKED

5.ACTIVATE AFK-REPORT IN RANDOM BATLEGROUND

6.MORE SEVERE PENALTIES TO PLAYERS THAT SABOTAGE GAMEPLAY

BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS LISTED BELOW ONE FACTION HAS EXTREMELY LONG WAIT FOR QUE,DEPENDING ON WHICH FACTION PRMADES ARE

1.PREMADES SYNC NOT TO PLAY VS EACHOTHER AKA SNIPING

2.PREMADES TRY TO SYNC 5 MAN PREMADE AND FEW SOLO JOINED IN SAME TEAM

3.PREMADES USE ALT ACCOUNTS TO ENTER ON ENEMY TEAM TO SABOTAGE GAMEPLAY AKA WINTRADING

4.MASS EPIDEMIC OF OFFLINE PLAYERS 99% IS ON PURPOSE

5.MASS EPIDEMIC OF AFK PLAYERS 99% IS ON PURPOSE

6.MASS EPIDEMIC OF AFK AVOIDING ANTI-AFK KICK BY MOVING A BIT

7.MASS EPIDEMIC OF AFK PLAYERS AVOIDING ANTI-AFK KICK BY DOING SOME MINIMAL DMG OR HERALING TO AVOID REPORT.THIS IS ALOS NOT PUNISHABLE AND OPENS A GATE FOR BLATANT GAMEPLAY SABOTAGE

8.AFK REPORT IN BG IS DISABLED

9.OFFLINE PLAYERS STAY TOO LONG IN BG-5 MINUTES

 

[Undisputed]

The situation is getting worse.

[Molodets]

On 7/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Guest said:

MAKE ALL RANDOM BGS CROSSFACTION

Will SEVERELY reduce BG que popping.

On 7/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Guest said:

DISABLE GROUP JOIN IN RANDOM BGS

Goes against basic rules of BGs set in play since vanila 1.0

Also, what if i wanna play with my friend, me & 1 him/her & wanna do BGs, do we wait to tandem step each other in que? do we que seperately, if we are both same faction, we may end up in 1 BG now, my friend in next & so on, pretty ABSURD dont ya think?

On 7/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Guest said:

JOIN FIRST YOU BECOME 10TH,JOIN 10TH YOU BECOME 3RD,JOIN 3RD YOU BECOME 1ST

So where is the algorithm who gets picked? what if i join now i become 10th then que collapses after 30 mins, i relog or have a crash, what now?

On 7/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Guest said:

MAKE OFFLINE PLAYERS STAY 1 MINUTE BEFORE KICKED

People who are not logged into login server (ur main login screen) get kicked automatically. When people from CERTAIN guilds stay offlife for whole BG, its cuz theres an exploit from multiple client.

On 7/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Guest said:

ACTIVATE AFK-REPORT

Given that realm players tend to behave FAIRLY immaturely more often than not, don't u think this would create vindictive reporting? or just harassment? or deliberate wrong report from anger or any number of things.

I could go on buddy. i can pick multiple holes in each numbered option that goes against basic WoW  game-play.

What is really happening is some players from absorbed server are seeing late season in any expansion's life for 1st time on such a large pop server, hence the puzzlement.

My cure? Community needs to self-police itself a bit. Aggro'ing people for no reason in chats, harassment, racial abuse, religion hate, its becoming far too common. Keep this up along with game-play sabotages & pop will shrink to nothing.

Hoping/expecting admins to enforce thru bans is not solution. Every bad societal behavior comes with a trade-off. Exploiting/Sabotaging/Win-trade tradeoff is that people stop playing cuz game is not what game is supposed to be, FUN.

Have fun, Good Game....

[Molodets]

In case u don't wanna read the wall of text:

Community needs to self-police itself a bit. Hoping/expecting admins to enforce thru bans is not solution. Bans can happen but are not a panacea to everyone's every problem, plus its a pserver, staff isn't infinite like retail.

[Norrøn]

Imagine taking random Battlegrounds this seriously. It neither got worse nor better, it's always been like that. Some can handle it, some can't. If you really think you can be a part of whatever solution thru inflationary afk-reports (on the forum) no one but you really cares about, you're quite delusional and self-righteous at the very same time.

Edited August 23, 2024 by Norrøn

[Molodets]

52 minutes ago, Norrøn said:

no one but you really cares about, you're quite delusional and self-righteous

Plenty people do care about forum reports & i do see people  getting disciplined for bad behavior on BG's, e.g. >  https://forum.firestorm-servers.com/us/index.php?/forum/489-archive-dragonflight/

Also, name calling isn't well suited for forums as people who are NOT EVEN members yet can see such things on top posts header.

The BG scene & certain other group activities have become a torment to complete with insults, threats, botting & other wrong behavior. If its NOT corrected in time, the non-vocal part of community will slowly reduce & ANY group activity will have tough time popping.

Its in self interest of  the realm community to behave..

[Norrøn]

Yeah, whatever. As I said, that's a thing since Vanilla and it won't change like ever if Blizzard doesn't revise its PVP mechanics.

[Sartarius]

2 hours ago, Norrøn said:

imagine taking random Battlegrounds this seriously.

lol, prolly trying to deflect from ur own AFK report?

 

[Norrøn]

On 23.8.2024 at 10:07 PM, Sartarius said:

lol, prolly trying to deflect from ur own AFK report?

 

 

Why would I try to deflect, I wasn't afk and that's the whole issue about this. Undisputed has no clue about objectives, the classes he plays, but is very active when it comes to report other players. Saw him playing several times on several classes and he's literally worse than the Valdrakken guard NPC's. Like, literally the only player on this realm reporting for "being afk", "wintrading" (in random BG's no less, lol) and other dreamt up scenarios because he can't handle losing games and has a sense for conspiracy theories. If this were such a huge issue, I wonder why there's basically no one else but him reporting. So, are the other 500+ or so PVP players on this realm too lazy to report or could the one person sensing misdemeanor everywhere be the actual problem? Like, a few weeks ago this guy literally reported a druid for defending a base in Arathi Basin while being stealthed (Surprise!) and staying at one particular base. Not my problem staff takes him seriously and validates his fever dreams. On another server, staff laughed at this exact guy's wild stories and that was that.

Edited August 30, 2024 by Norrøn

[Molodets]

1. Koshmar's reports make it to top of forums & it gives new players&visitors a sense that realm is a cheater's paradise. He is generally not wrong about his AFK reports..

2. GMs & pretty much ANYONE with DB access can see event logs of ANY BG, the damages, the heals, deaths, everything & decisions aren't based on

On 8/30/2024 at 3:43 PM, Norrøn said:

staff takes him seriously and validates his fever dreams

3.

On 8/30/2024 at 3:43 PM, Norrøn said:

On another server, staff laughed at this

this isn't verifiable & lets keep discussion of other servers off-limit.

Edited September 3, 2024 by andyblast

[Norrøn]

He's dead wrong because he's hysteric and has zero game knowledge at that. Take your time to watch him play and you'll realise he's cluesless and making false allegations almost constantly. You can look at it from either perspective. Obviously, I'm sticking with mine, also because he's not doing it to improve the game experience, like at all. He's doing it for the sole purpose to quench his thirst for the punishment of others. Also, being AFK or not doesn't depend on damage, heal and deaths only, there's more layers to it. In said BG which got me penalized for example I threw flag carriers off the cliff with bombs and Mind Control, which neither appear in the damage nor the Flags reclaimed counter. 
In the long term, it's not the alleged AFK'ers who harm PVP on this server or the server in general, but people like him who paint an apocalyptic picture of circumstances that literally don't exist. Or, instead it's becoming a picture of overzealous staff with a way too quick triggerfinger. Pictures which outsiders who didn't play on the server yet but plan to do can clearly see. 

Consider this, as stupid as it may sound to you: Even if someone is AFK for one or two minutes, what could be the reason? Maybe that someone has to go to the toilet, accept a phone call, go for the door because the doorbell rang. Do you leave everytime that happens or do you merely think: "Nah, not worth it, I'm back soon anyway." If that's the kinda issues that impair this server, then be sure to keep this kind of behavior up and see what it ultimately leads to. With this post, the topic is closed for me. Do as you wish, it's up to you. Like 98% of these reports are filed by one player of how many in the whole community? 4000? 5000? Yet you question anyone else but him. Again, I can't help but wonder that his feverdreams get validated, even though the reports lack evidence and "End of Battleground"-results. Surely, when everyone else seems to be having no problem at all, it must be everyone else who's at fault and not the one guy who's seeing guys.

To finish this, here's a mashup of some fine, selected statements of this grand poet who's just trying to improve the server experience. Such a nice, caring person, right? And that's only the stuff I screened out of amusement. You can see him yapping every evening, when he's accusing everyone and anyone of wintrading, syncing and AFK'ing after having lost a bg. I mean, I'm certainly not the holy lamb, I gotta admit that, but at least I'm not constantly reporting everyone because I receive insults, I can handle my own. Livin' by the sword, dyin' by the sword, if you will. But these constant pointless accusations are something else really.

Have a nice day, everyone.

 

 

[Undisputed]

Problem is getting more serious

No Dogs,Excellence,Unholy Death PVP,Казнъ,and a lot more ppl do it

[Molodets]

Bro, Much as I dislike ur forum posts riding to the top every day, you are correct in this. It has become so aggravated that I AND several friends i knew from realm have COMPLETELY stopped PvP in any shape or form. The wintrade has become biggest pox on the server.

They don't stop there, Ive seen in ur case & then others too that they start ganging up on person reporting, harassment, insults, toxic behavior in the global....

GL, i hope u find some fun things to do on game koshmar...

[Norrøn]

Wintrade for ~60 honor, sure. You guys are hilarious.

[Undisputed]

It is extremely easy to dodge/sycn with mercenary contract-all premades play on one faction.It is obvious to everyone.Totally ruins battleground balance.Not to mention all mentioned in first post.

[Undisputed]

At the moment BG que is 45 Aliance 0 Horde.Most of it is because of premades.

40 Players playing 45 aliance in que 0 Horde 

Edited September 26, 2024 by Undisputed

[Norrøn]

Why don't you queue as Horde then? Or do you queue as Horde and people just don't wanna play with you? Questions, Questions.

[Undisputed]

The issues need to be recondisdered more seriously,the situation is getting worse

[Undisputed]

Entering one team with AFK alts,or entering and going offline and playing on other team has become a COMMON PRACTICE