Posted October 19, 2015 hello, i just want to say that comparing to palas, dks, hunters, monks... enh shammy doesnt deal much dmg. but its even worse when stormstrike is bugged.what u think about enh guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 20, 2015 I don't know for which expansion you are speaking right now, but i assume for Dreanor atm so I'll talk futher on that matter since i know the most about them on that expansion:I've no clue about the stormstrike bug you ar refering to but the thing i can tell you is the fact that enhancement shamans are not ment to be heavy hitters. they have overal less damage on all of their abilities but they have WAY more sources of damage. So for example a ret paladin has 3-4 sources of damage that is making them do alot of dps, while a enhancement shaman has like 10+ sources of "main" damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) "main" dmg is coming from lava lash, stormstrike, shocks,totems... fire nova(when there are many ppl). and thats what i said earlier, enh shammys DONT have dmg comparing to them, i know that, it should be like that, but stormstrike is one of its main damaging spells, but stormstrike deals 2x less dmg and its a really big loss for enh. still ty for replying. Edited October 20, 2015 by JINI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1, 2016 Fairly clueless, of what you guys are on about.. However Stormstrike hits like a train, Im not even end gear and I see the 50k's flying around. Its probably the weapons being low, SS scales of base weapon damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 On 7/1/2016 at 3:24 AM, Local Smuggler said: Fairly clueless, of what you guys are on about.. However Stormstrike hits like a train, Im not even end gear and I see the 50k's flying around. Its probably the weapons being low, SS scales of base weapon damage. Stormstrike "hits" like a train because of the overall procs it generates. Either way Stormstrike is one of the primary abilities for Enhancement with Lava Lash. Which should obviously deal some kind of damage and still not be compared to other offensive abilities Enhancement has. Currently, I don't see any issues with Stormstrike being bugged, however I do feel like it has a small damage "miss-calculation" It should be easy to calculate it to do the damage it should compared to Retail 6.2.3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 Maybe yeah, they kind of being hitting low, but massively and fast enough. Can take Troll Encha Shaman for example Bloodlust + Bersek = Excellent haste for fast cooldowns With Echo of elements, you can use almost every abillity within some small seconds, so i say, they are good enough in 1 v 1. Yeah, probably with paladins it will own some problems, since of pala's damage and stun. Then probably go with Tauren shaman for extra stamina and extra interrupting stun. So actually encha shammy does greater damage under the burst and no one, which isn't protected, would even survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 5, 2016 15 hours ago, Laydor Marvel said: Maybe yeah, they kind of being hitting low, but massively and fast enough. Can take Troll Encha Shaman for example Bloodlust + Bersek = Excellent haste for fast cooldowns With Echo of elements, you can use almost every abillity within some small seconds, so i say, they are good enough in 1 v 1. Yeah, probably with paladins it will own some problems, since of pala's damage and stun. Then probably go with Tauren shaman for extra stamina and extra interrupting stun. So actually encha shammy does greater damage under the burst and no one, which isn't protected, would even survive. Well, that's why you go Haste in WoD Enhancement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 6, 2016 9 hours ago, Kiration said: Well, that's why you go Haste in WoD Enhancement Well yea, thats the key for Encha shammy. haste < crit = DEATH TO EVERYONE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/6/2016 at 10:15 AM, Laydor Marvel said: Well yea, thats the key for Encha shammy. haste < crit = DEATH TO EVERYONE! Versa - Haste - Last Mastery = 1v1 Feral MoP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Kiration said: Versa - Haste - Last Mastery = 1v1 Feral MoP. I dunno, mastery kinda improves the damage of schocks i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Just now, Laydor Marvel said: I dunno, mastery kinda improves the damage of schocks i guess. Well, I'd say. Go Mastery/Versa if you're.. spamming Bg's, otherwise go Vera > Haste then lastly Mastery. Nearly as what Feral druids are doing on WoD - Versa > Mastery then lastly Crit/Haste. As full 720 gear, I would have around 20% Versa without buffs in PvP, I believe. Which is a lot! Basically just increasing my healing/dmg by 20% and dmg taken reduced by 10% Then with your glyph which would be 20% sustained reduction. Edited July 11, 2016 by Kiration Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Kiration said: Well, I'd say. Go Mastery/Versa if you're.. spamming Bg's, otherwise go Vera > Haste then lastly Mastery. Nearly as what Feral druids are doing on WoD - Versa > Mastery then lastly Crit/Haste. As full 720 gear, I would have around 20% Versa without buffs in PvP, I believe. Which is a lot! Basically just increasing my healing/dmg by 20% and dmg taken reduced by 10% Then with your glyph which would be 20% sustained reduction. Well thats ferals indeed. If you go full buffs, i dunno, then its possible to high up defense + healing + attack, which for ferals are epic, since of passive healing talents and others. Well, maybe have to agree for encha shammy about versa, with that maelstorm weapon, i guess, it shall bring up bigger advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Laydor Marvel said: Well thats ferals indeed. If you go full buffs, i dunno, then its possible to high up defense + healing + attack, which for ferals are epic, since of passive healing talents and others. Well, maybe have to agree for encha shammy about versa, with that maelstorm weapon, i guess, it shall bring up bigger advantage. If you gear versa with Enhancement, you should have around 20% in full 720. Versa is most likely the 1st prior for hybrid classes. Versatility really gives you HIGH potential healing and dmg. You should try it out if you haven't yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Kiration said: If you gear versa with Enhancement, you should have around 20% in full 720. Versa is most likely the 1st prior for hybrid classes. Versatility really gives you HIGH potential healing and dmg. You should try it out if you haven't yet. Well, i did that on feral as full versa or full mastery. Full mastery - Pretty fast kills, but small chance to survive. But once i gone the versa stuff, yeah, i was able to survive pretty long in 3 v 1 and was able to kill 2 people. But encha shammy yeah. I didn't test versa on him, since i gone haste < crit. Well, under burst it took only few sec till i killed my enemy, but ranged class gave a hard task. So, i will see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, Laydor Marvel said: Well, i did that on feral as full versa or full mastery. Full mastery - Pretty fast kills, but small chance to survive. But once i gone the versa stuff, yeah, i was able to survive pretty long in 3 v 1 and was able to kill 2 people. But encha shammy yeah. I didn't test versa on him, since i gone haste < crit. Well, under burst it took only few sec till i killed my enemy, but ranged class gave a hard task. So, i will see that. Yeah, I assume we're talking about BG's and such, it's pretty fun to kill players with high damage etc. Nevertheless I'm always with Versa/Haste. It gives me so much good potential good aid. I hardly have issues in BG's, yet it's fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 Just now, Kiration said: Yeah, I assume we're talking about BG's and such, it's pretty fun to kill players with high damage etc. Nevertheless I'm always with Versa/Haste. It gives me so much good potential good aid. I hardly have issues in BG's, yet it's fun! Its pretty fun to test out different styles of fight. Its like one class can turn into more under classes. So yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 11, 2016 21 minutes ago, Laydor Marvel said: Its pretty fun to test out different styles of fight. Its like one class can turn into more under classes. So yeah. Yeap! Good luck trying Versatility out, if you're! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 29, 2016 I would say,.get soft cap of haste then stack versatility, you can thank me later. Btw in ealier patches haste was go for stat. Some people are stacking... crit. Remeber that crit does only 150% dmg in pvp so I think we over all benefit.more from versa and haste. Correct me if im wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
