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Also if you say Affliction has problems generating soul shards beacause of bugs (not even noticed it, in single target you're supposed to use Soul effigy and there is something called soul sniping adds) and it's still the best warlock spec on Firestorm, it actually makes you think about the desperate state the other two spec are in. As it is well know that even in retail this patch was problematic with soul shard generation for Affliction.

How can you claim avoidance is working while clearly it isn't? Go do Halls of Valor and make a video of it and count how many times your Fel guard dies at the first boss or Odyn, I dare you. Vault of Wardens, last boss AoE? The same thing, and I can go on. For the pets it's your job to aid devs fixing warlock, not mine and you're also paid for it. And they are not properly calculated obviously if demonology is doing half the damage it should do in PURE single target compared to retail this patch. Or do you think the difference in dps it's to blame on Shadow bolt that deals 8% of your total dps at best? Am I missing something? You weren't the same who wrote that Grimoire of Service was working 100% while often the Fel Guard just stay watching the boss not even attacking? On my warlock I have BIS helm for single target and even with the bugged Gul'dan trinket I can't even go near the single target dps I do with affliction, which is completely unblizzlike and I don't even have a proper legend for it (trinket and neck). Warlock at the moment is the only class with ONE single spec working semi-properly that's affliction, go figure out why. Maybe because if someone makes you notice something you deny it or invite them to do your job. Please just stop denying, as it would be better starting fixing things. I think the warlock community would love to finally have 3 specs to play not only 1 in order to be competitive and not utter garbage. Warlock all around in Legion should be one of the best caster not only affliction. And do some research if you don't believe demonlogy is the best single target spec for warlock by a MILE in every single Legion patch.

ALSO you don't think it's freaking time to fix the damn avoidance for warlock pets??? This alone makes demo completely unviable in PvE as with ANY damn boss AoE the pet dies instantly and you lose all your dps. I sincerely don't understand how come Bm hunters are almost perfectly fixed while demo is in such a messy state with pets stats all around the place. Demo pets haven't be so different to fix compared to Bm hunters ones no? Am I missing something?

Demonlogy is shit in PvE in this server, it should be one of the strongest spec in single target, but it sucks. Please we need someone to look at demons damage formulas. We know affliction is one of the best if not the best caster in the game in 7.3.5, but having a second viable spec wouldn't hurt. It gets boring only playing with a spec after a while. Also for destro that screen at Star Augur is biased AF, the overall damage is extremely low and it doesn't show the real state of destruction here. Being first with 171M damage in a 6 min fight at a dummy fight says it all at the quality of the other dps more like. Firestorm has to fix the other 2 spec for warlock, as affliction for now it's the only viable at least in PvE. With the other you will do twice the effort for half the result.

It's possible that you can never hotfix something? Sole server that can't and won't rimediate their BS within the day. Now we are stuck how much time with a completely broken spec? 1, 2 months?... If you apply fixes somewhere and actually succeed to break and bug a class almost 100% fixed (you broke restoration too lol), it won't at lest be decent from your part to look at the issues and just fix it within hours? No eh, won't ever happen in Firestorm. I swear you would be able to bug a spell dealing 1000k damage oneshotting people and wait for the next changelog to adress it...

If it was scripted properly it would have been the ONLY choice in single target and cleave, instead is vastly inferior to Supremacy, by a high margin, considering the latter is passive and you don't lose dps if you screw up, but even if you do your rotation perfectly, Service is still far behind. You can't even do proper AoE since Felstorm is a one time usage move here. You use it the first time then because of energy regen, the felguard won't be able to felstorm again unless you untoggle Legion strike. This makes Service completely unviable in any situation unless you have the wrist and ring legends, which wasn't absolutely the case in retail 7.1.5 or in any other patch. Still, I don't need to be top 1, I simply don't want to experience the same thing I did with shadow priest because the single target damage is just horrendous. I do more on my demo with 0 legends, 34 traits and 871 item lvl with random stats than my priest that has 2 legends (one BIS) and 42 traits with optimal retail-like stats. It's just a question of don't wanting to waste time and effort on something bugged that it's just a distortion of retail. Thanks for your replies and marry christmas.

Ye but dps on dummies is one thing, on bosses is another. How is your performance with demo in raid and mm+? Average dps in single target? Sorry if I seem a bit a FoTM reroller, but I want to know the numbers, I don't want to spend my time in one spec and then discover it's all bugged and do shitty dps once I got 3,4 legend and 880 item lvl. I want to avoid the same it happened with shadow priest, single target damage and thus in raid, is pratically non-existant. When you raid with your guild or do mm+10+, what's your ranking on boss fights? On adds I know we have good AoE, but really I'm a bit worried, because playing a pet dependant spec on a private server is a BIG bet, in terms of bugs, etc. Then I already noticed how many limits demo has when it comes to performance, one single thing that screws your rotation (movement, etc) and your dps drops like a stone. Pet bugs don't help also. IMPORTANT: For one also please ask to fix asap Grimoire of Service, it should be our to go talent both for the legends synergy (BIS ring, wrist) and in single target! Go to see every single changelog on Nighthold or even in 7.3, grimoire of service is the absolute best in single target and cleave, Grimoire of Synergy for AOE instead. Whereas here the only option viable is the boring Grimoire of Supremacy. Really not funny seeing 40% of your dps coming from passive pet alone and have to keep changing from infernal to doomguard throughout a dungeon. You really have to fix that talent, as it's the CORE of the demo spec please.

hi guys, what's the viability in this server considering bugs/patch for the 3 warlock specialization? Destro and demo are viable? how is their damage compared to other classes in single/multi target/aoe fights? seeing only affliction going around, but I already have a shadow priest. Are destro and demo too bugged to be doing decent dps? Talking about Legion obviously.

Or better bugged template based

Template are ALL messed up, how you are still not understanding this? Every class in PvP is doing 3x the damage it should. Retri, mages and Dhs are those that stand out seeing that they were already op in retail, adding a 3x damage multiplier isn't helping for sure. Paladins for istance have 8k more strenght than they should. This is all gms fault, seeing that they prioritize other bugs fixes instead of implementing proper pvp templates ad modifiers. PvP in Legion in this server is a joke and will continue like that until they decide to implement template fixes.

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Too bad on PvP that matters Arms is the way to go

Then open a ticket on bugtracker about it, this thread is absolutely useless and won't change a thing.

Yes Sketter but the problem is, you had a CHOICE between Arms or Fury and you pick the spec you have the most fun playing with. Whereas Rogues, Warlocks, etc. here don't have a choice but to go with the same spec if they don't want to be kicked for not doing enough dps in PvE, or suck in PvP. That's the main difference.

Ya sketter I know but the problem isn't the single last changelog about PvP talents, the problems is having such huge specbreaking bugs after 3 months of an expansion in. Those 3 bugs alone if fixed would add 2 more playable spec on the rogue class, but rogue CM is sleeping big and secondary things are fixed first. The result? After 3 months 1 rogue spec playable. Those bugs are so huge they would of have been put on the very first spell fix cycle for rogue if certain CMs would actually know what they are doing. I think you inderstand very well the point I'm trying to make. I think the whole community would be happier to have more spec to pick up to play instead of a few PvP talents working. And you know I'm right, wouldn't you prefer being able to pick for PvP and PvE all 3 dk specs instead being able only to play Frost but with a few PvP talents working?